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@Blissey1  
reptile, fictional species

Legiana -> Monster Hunter, wyvern, dragon, fictional species, reptile

uhh, I accidentally voted for the wrong option and chose flat chest instead of no breast

@Twifan  
They dont want the tag ‘happy sex’ and so are merging it into sex. That’ll happen with some tags that are ‘close enough’

Huh…looks like its changed to  
benrey+_28hlvrai29 -> benrey_2B2528hlvrai%2529
 
that’ll fuck up a lot of my species tags stuff too. Woooo >.>

I agree with cru that it makes sense to have ambient wildlife not get a species tag. In fact, I’d argue that if the wildlife is prominent enough to get a species tag, it shouldn’t be ambient wildlife. Those should be mutually exclusive.
 
 
is not ambient wildlife, and including it in this discussion just makes the whole thing confusing. The butterfly is clearly in a focus spot, in close proximity to a focus. Your eyes are meant to be drawn to the butterfly. Calling this ambient wildlife is just silly and muddies the tag.

Currently the tag “flat chest” is used for females that have no breasts at all. It was brought up on Discord that flat chest is understood by some people as meaning that there are breasts present but are they are just small (small breasts ) like in “delicious flat chest”, and that the “flat chest” tag should not be used for “small breasts” no breasts at all (^{edited this part as this was a mistake}) but it should be an alias of “small breasts”. The user suggested that for females characters without any visible breasts at all there should be other tag used: “no breasts”.
 
What do you think about this issue?  

 
EDIT: For more detailed explanation see also this mine post from this thread: https://furbooru.org/forums/tagging/topics/nsfw-how-to-tag-females-without-breasts-flat-chest-or-no-breasts?post_id=12117#post_12117

Ambient wildlife tag should only be used according to its description:  

 
Think of it as “incidental animal”. If the animal is at least somewhat important because the main character is interacting with it in some way then it should not be tagged as ambient wildlife and also it should not be solo but solo focus instead then. If the animal is not important then it should be ambient wildlife and just solo.
 
I would say:
 
NOT ambient wildlife  

 
IT IS ambient wildlife  

 
Edge case where it depends whether main character is pointing at the butterfly (then it would not be ambient wildlife) or it is there just to fill the blank space (then it would be ambient wildlife):  

 
As for when to tag species:
 
If we had tags like “ambient bird”, “ambient butterfly” etc. then I think species should never be tagged for ambient wildlife. But Fleetfoot wrote on Discord that she doesn’t want it like that.
 
In that case I would say it depends. For species that is more often depicted in furry art as the main subject like “bird” species should not be tagged, but for species that is more often depicted in furry art as ambient wildlife like “butterfly” it might still get tagged as it would not interfere with search results.
 
The goal should be so that if somebody searches for “solo, bird” they should not get a picture like that in their results:  

 
And you can’t just use “solo, bird, -ambient wildlife” because what if the character that is the main focus is also a bird? This is why having tags like “ambient bird” would be usefull.

@Hoffun Way
 
@Blissey1
 
@dream
 
I noticed some errors while trying to access character tags directly by the links you provided, somehow the link got problems with parenthesis unicoding, some of the site staffs must’ve changed at some point of time.

@Gyro  

 
james cameron’s avatar for that particular one.

forced sex should be an aliases of rape. Unless I’m missing something that keeps the two tags separated?
 
angry sex should imply sex
 
Also happy sex has been labeled an aliases of sex, which kind of strike me as odd with implied tags such as rape.

The distinction between hypnosis and mind control is something that I’ve taken notice of as well. IRL, hypnotism/hypnosis isn’t mind control at all - merely consensual, increased suggestibility to the point of hallucination. I’ve wanted to see that intersect with the furry fandom for a while. After all, if you can make someone believe they look like an animal, and should act like an animal…that would be a fun concept to explore.
 
Unfortunately, in all the time I’ve spent looking, 99% of “hypnosis” fetish art in the fandom seems to play more like mind control/enthralling. I could see an argument for aliasing the two and letting stage magician-style hypnosis be treated as an exception if it ever comes up. I’m open to suggestions on what to call that. “consensual hypnosis?”
 
Either way, I see no problem with having other, more specific tags for things like body swap, corruption, possession, and magic.

Simple topic, should images with Ambient Wildlife be tagged with the species they are, or not? Some people already said no, some said yes. I want some kind of consensus set in stone so it can be added to the description of the tag. No arbitrary rules of “they shouldn’t be tagged with species no matter what” or “they should always be tagged with species no matter what” let’s find a nice solid ground. Also their form too, factor this into this whole thing too.
 
The Yes option means all of them, provided they can be made out as an animal shape.  
The No option means that they should not be tagged no matter what.  
The Variable option means a mix of the two or something else entirely, please explain below.
 
Personally, I am okay with them being tagged no matter the size, it doesn’t bother me when it comes to searching or filtering.
 
Also, I can see these being tagged with species as making sense.  
 
These I can forgive as ‘not important enough’ to not tag species.  

transformation sequence should imply transformation

tgtf -> transgender transformation
 
oh and transgender transformation should imply transformation

saphira (eragon) -> eragon

I wanted to bring up a discussion of these two tags due to how many sites have different opinion on it, as well as the impact it will have on other tags.
 
For some sites, Hypnosis and Mind Control are the same tag.
 
E621 has hypnosis as a sub tag of Mind Control.
 
Meanwhile Derpibooru has hypnosis as “Hypnosis is influencing/suggestion, but with the person under it still ultimately in control.” While Mind Control is “Mind control is what it says on the tin; meat-puppet.” They keep the two tag separate, no image can contain both tags at once.
 
So far, the two tags has been used on this site have been separated, following Derpibooru’s style. That is fine if that is how you want them to be tagged. But you have different meanings for other tags, so maybe you’d want something different for these too? And then there are other similar theme tags to consider:
 
“Love magic”/Charm spell/Love potion/Cupid’s Arrow: A group of tags that sometimes get put together with Hypnosis/Mind Control dealing with causing a person fall in love/lust with a person or object. More a emotional manipulation that altering minds, but I see why the two tags are shared as well as having their own tag. Sometimes shares with “aphrodisiac” tag for when its more about making a person horny over falling in love.
 
“Corruption”: A tag commonly dealing with altering a characters personality, typically in a dark or more sexual way. “Brainwashing”/“Reprogramming” tag seems to also serve the same purpose, splitting the two tags by if magic was used (for Corruption) or other. Sometimes shared with transformation to show they have a new body to go with their new personality. “Bimbofication” is a similar tag as well, but focused on a specific transformation. That of a “Airheaded” hypersexualized female who is perfectly happy to be used and degraded.
 
“Possession”/“Body Swap”: A tag commonly used with images of someone taking direct control over someones mind. Sometimes by swapping who is in what body. Sometimes by ghostly/magical forces. It typically stands out compared to other Mind Control tags, because of the person controlling their mind are inside the persons body.
 
All these tags would be effected based on how the tags Hypnosis and Mind Control are defined. Are they sub tags? Are they their own tags? Are they allowed to overlap with other tags?
 
 
One Suggestion is to have a super tag for mind/emotion manipulation and have sub tags defining the action being taken in the image for better clarification/tagging.
 
For example:
 
-A tag for having Character A be convinced to do an action by character/object B. This can be following them, taking off their clothes, having sex, or just remain there in a daze as if nothing is wrong.
 
-A tag for having Character A be directly controlled by character B. This can be by Possession, mind swap, or with a device that directly controls the body of Character A like a living puppet.
 
-A tag for having Character A fall in love/lust with someone thanks to some supernatural source (magic/science). This would be for an image showing a character acting/talking like themselves, taking their own actions than being forced/“Suggested” to do an action, but are clearly being manipulated by outside force. May have a sub tag (or make it a seprate tag) for making someone extra horny rather than falling in love.
 
-A tag for having Character A personality changed by character/object B. This can be something temperary, such as hypnotizing someone to make them think they are another animal (Common themes include pet dog, or a cow that needs to be milk), or becoming a dark/sexualized version of themselves. May be common with the tag transformation, implying a new personality alongside the new body.
 

 
 
This is just a suggestion. Mostly I just wanted someone to be aware of these tags and how they will effect other tags that have already appeared (and many that will appear) on this site. Any thoughts?

na’vi (avatar) -> Fictional species, humanoid, alien, Avatar
 
Avatar probably needs disambiguation, but idk how.
 
aegislash -> pokemon, fictional species, nintendo, animate object

yellow tags  
half-life -> valve  
half-life vr but the ai is self-aware -> valve, half-life, wayneradiotv, youtube  
henry stickmin  
inanimate insanity -> youtube  
nintendo ds -> nintendo  
wayneradiotv (irl person, twitch streamer/youtuber) -> youtube
 
alias  
half life -> half-life  
hlvrai -> half-life vr but the ai is self-aware
 
characters  
benrey (hlvrai) -> valve, half-life, wayneradiotv, youtube, half-life vr but the ai is self-aware  
henry stickmin (henry stickmin) -> henry stickmin  
knife (inanimate insanity) -> inanimate insanity, youtube  
pickle (inanimate insanity) -> inanimate insanity, youtube  
two (bfdi) -> battle for dream island, youtube
 
implication edit for series + their characters:  
battle for dream island -> youtube

yellow: among us  
(god i’m obsessed with that game)

Is there a specific name for the outfit in this image?: >>29017
 
Bunny suit seems right, but since it’s usually used in conjunction with rabbit ears for the ‘playboy bunny’-look maybe I shouldn’t use that tag?  
Or maybe it’s not even called a bunny suit, I dunno

wheee, sanrio stuff
 
yellow:  
sugarminuet -> sanrio  
little twin stars -> sanrio  
onegai my melody -> sanrio  
wish me mell (series) -> sanrio  
jewelpet -> sanrio  
show by rock!! -> sanrio
 
blue, all imply their respective franchise + sanrio:  
balletusa (sugarminuet)  
cinnamoroll (sanrio)  
my melody (sanrio)  
my sweet piano (sanrio)  
pompompurin (sanrio)  
primausa (sugarminuet)  
usahana (sanrio)  
seiya (aggretsuko)  
gori (aggretsuko)  
tadako (aggretsuko)  
ookami (aggretsuko)  
washimi (aggretsuko)  
anai (aggretsuko)  
puko (aggretsuko)  
badtz-maru (sanrio)  
keroppi (sanrio)  
chococat (sanrio)  
dear daniel (sanrio)  
gudetama (sanrio)  
kiki (little twin stars)  
lala (little twin stars)  
pochacco (sanrio)  
tuxedo sam (sanrio)  
manaka (aggretsuko)  
uta yumeno (onegai my melody)  
nina (wish me mell)  
wish me mell (wish me mell)  
mimmy (sanrio)  
larimar (jewelpet)  
luna (jewelpet)  
rosa (jewelpet)  
ruby (jewelpet)  
mewkledreamy (sanrio)  
bonbonribbon (sanrio)  
cyan hijirikawa (show by rock!!)

@Fleetfoot  
alright, it’s been updated. Vidofnir (final fantasy) -> final fantasy
 
also, Beerus (dragon ball) -> either dragon ball or dragon ball (series) and one of those should really be aliased into the other

@Gyro
 
@Blissey1  
Yes ideally we’ll only go for as little as possible franchise tags so we don’t over-bloat it, at some point we’ll clean excessive franchise tags likely aliasing them into the main one. Only cases where there’s enough of a difference will go through.

Because we have ear ring aliased into -> earring then alias also:
 
nose ring -> nosering
 
EDIT:  
Alias:
 
redwinged blackbird -> red-winged blackbird the latter one is the correct name