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Tagging Discussion » [NSFW] How to tag females without breasts - "flat chest" or "no breasts"? » Post 32

sangie
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cuntboy is aliased into intersex male, this discussion is about how to tag female characters. Some species just don’t have breasts at all on their females, doesn’t make them not female.
 
Oh sorry. I would go with no breasts if it hasn’t been decided yet. If flat chest is used, that would be used on twink/femboy males too.
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@sangie  
cuntboy is aliased into intersex male, this discussion is about how to tag female characters. Some species just don’t have breasts at all on their females, doesn’t make them not female.
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sangie
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transmale/cuntboi I’m more comfortable with, especially if the character is a male. Cuntboy is rather derogatory so I would go with trans male unless they have small breasts.
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I think, distraction of cup sizes (and an acknowledgement that it’s a relative measure, and intentionally so) aside, there doesn’t seem to be much disagreement about the way these tags should be used, just quibbling over exactly how to define the de facto usage.
 
Short version: Very small breasts/no breasts should be tagged “flat chest,” below-average breast sizes should be tagged “small breasts.” The no breasts tag would therefore be redundant as it would only be used to tag flat chest and things that never had breasts in the first place…which, if they’re to be tagged at all, would also be tagged flat chest if it’s a noteworthy feature.
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Cup sizes are always relative to the difference between underbust and over the bust circumferences anyways. I wouldn’t use cup sizes to determine that stuff.
 
Here an example from Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra_size)
These are equivalent UK cup volumes.
full
 
The comparison to head size is easier and makes more sense in most cases to the viewers.
 
Defining stuff through cup sizes will be… problematic and chaotic.
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@Wingbeat  
I stand by what I said regarding “flat chest” referring to a-cups and below. I have no problem with “small breasts” being used to refer to A-C cups at the uploader’s discretion, within reason (not washboard flat or “relatively small by furry porn standards”).
I don’t know anything about cup sizes either irl or in art so those letters like A or C don’t tell me anything.
 
@Wingbeat  
I would prefer that cases where a character/species that usually has breasts being pictured without them (“no breasts”) and vice versa, a character/species that normally doesn’t being emboobened be treated the same way: only tag the presence or absence when it is a deviation from the norm. Much the same way you wouldn’t normally tag lips on a human but you sure would on a bird.
Reptiles don’t usually have breasts, at least in real life, but in furry art it’s hard to tell. Probably most do because there is a bunch of people who like breasts in their furry art (but I am not one of them :P).
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I stand by what I said regarding “flat chest” referring to a-cups and below. I have no problem with “small breasts” being used to refer to A-C cups at the uploader’s discretion, within reason (not washboard flat or “relatively small by furry porn standards”).
 
I would prefer that cases where a character/species that usually has breasts being pictured without them (“no breasts”) and vice versa, a character/species that normally doesn’t being emboobened be treated the same way: only tag the presence or absence when it is a deviation from the norm. Much the same way you wouldn’t normally tag lips on a human but you sure would on a bird.
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I’ve been on the internet long enough to know that species originally not having breast are often given them in far art, hence why I say it should be base on the artist and if there’s anything else in the image, which the “no breasts” as the default if there’s no evidence suggesting it’s a species with human-like breasts.
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Those are characters/species from official franchises. The first one is a dragon from MLP and the second one is an OC from a species from Guild Wars. The canonical form of females of this species do not have breasts at all.
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I rather that flat chest be used in situations where a female has a flat chest but is in a species that would have breast, like in an image with two females of the same species but one has normal breasts while the other is flat as a board.
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I may have worded the opening (first) post of this thread in a bit too confusing way (and I also made one mistake there, the part that is now struck through). I will try to fix that.
 
The current situation is like this:
 
Characters with no breasts at all get “flat chest” tag. They might have nipples. Examples:

also this one because those are the size of male pecs:

also this one because it doesn’t look like like there is any bump under this bra (although from the text in the speech bubble it would seem that breasts are there but just so flat that they “disappear”):
Characters with small breasts get “small breasts” tag, so examples of those would be:
 
The question is: Should the meaning of “flat chest” be changed to be for things that are under the “small breasts” tag right now and then a new tag like “no breasts” should be created for things like in my examples for current “flat chest” tag? So then it would be like that:
 
“flat chest” = “small breasts” - small breasts only  
“no breasts” - no breasts only
 
or should it stay like it is defined right now, so:
 
“flat chest” - no breasts only  
“small breasts” - small breasts only
 
But now from the comments posted above I see that there might be more than those two options as “flat chest” could work for both “small breasts” and “no breasts” so that those two things would be under one tag. This is not what I proposed but it’s one option of changing the meaning of those tags. Then searching for characters actually lacking any breasts would then require searching for “flat chest, -breasts” and the “no breasts” tag would not be needed at all. So in this other variant it would be:
 
“flat chest” - both small breasts and no breasts  
“flat chest, breasts” - small breasts only  
“flat chest, -breasts” - no breasts only
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I’m not really happy with that poll prompt, it contains two premises. Why would you put no breasts and small breasts into one pot? They should stay separated.
 
No breasts shouldn’t need to be tagged at all. Such as the picture in the opening post. No nipples, no areola, no visible bumps that would be different to males or whatever. There’s simply nothing and we shouldn’t tag nothing in that case.  

 
Flat chests should be for visible breasts. I would suggest that it should include:  
• Literally flat chest line but with nipples or areola on them.  
• Clothed humanoids where you would expect breasts but them being totally or close to totally flat.  
• Small bumps which wouldn’t even need a bra ranging from areola bumps up to slight elevation of the breasts.  
Like in those already posted examples:  
 
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I think a-cups and below make sense to tag as “flat chest.”
 
I think characters/species that normally don’t have breasts can also be tagged as “flat chest,” as tagging “no breasts” seems redundant in this situation. It would either be tagged alongside “flat chest,” or pulling double duty for that tag and cause a headache of mutual exclusivity.
 
I think “no breasts” has a better use case in situations where a character that would ordinarily have breasts magically finds themselves flat-chested for whatever reason. I see no reason otherwise to have that tag.
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