Species Listing

@CruFox
I have them imply for a reason as most results WILL be MLP ponies, and they can be removed if they are not. Implications are not a 100% thing, they are a 98% thing. On Derpi we imply genders from ships even tho they can be genderswapped, tags can be edited after the fact. There is a metric ton of MLP related unicorns and pegasi, but not a ton of non-pony versions, and those that are, just remove the added tag, not a big deal.

I thought ahead and thought about what will be most likely to occur. Implications are never devoid of incorrectness, you just cover what is most likely to happen.

@LightningBolt
If people forget to tag human/bird/pony/rabbit, then add it for them. Implying it would make a mess of things for species swap.

 
Also, LB has threatened to ban anyone who attempts to be helpful adding species tags to pokemon if they dont have implications. So they’re kinda talking out of both sides of their mouth here.
 

@Gyro
They are free to be added with tags but I don’t want any to imply stuff as not all pokemon species are clear-cut and I might hang myself if I see Entei/Suicune/Raikou implying ‘canine’.

@Gyro
Yes, if it continues without listening to staff someone can and will get stopped. tag vandalism isn’t just removing good tags or adding garbage, it can also apply to mass-adding tags no one discussed or agreed to yet.

@Gyro
If it still resembles a sergal in some cosmetic ways, yes.

That humanized Serperior is wearing clothes that resemble a Serperior, so it is still tagged Serperior.

@Gyro
They are free to be added with tags but I don’t want any to imply stuff as not all pokemon species are clear-cut and I might hang myself if I see Entei/Suicune/Raikou implying ‘canine’.

@LightningBolt

@Gyro
Yes, if it continues without listening to staff someone can and will get stopped. tag vandalism isn’t just removing good tags or adding garbage, it can also apply to mass-adding tags no one discussed or agreed to yet.

I feel like I’m being gaslit here because you also previously said we could tag pokemon as whatever we thought they were. But here you’re saying if we go and tag pokemon what we think they are, thats bad. Like two sides of the mouth here. You’re being incredibly inconsistent.

If anyone here is gaslighting, it’s you. Those two thoughts are not the same. Tag Pokemon what you want, and then the other thought is “do not force tags into existance by mass tagging them to hundreds of images and then expect people to agree”. Separate.

@LightningBolt

@Gyro
If it still resembles a sergal in some cosmetic ways, yes.

That humanized Serperior is wearing clothes that resemble a Serperior, so it is still tagged Serperior.

Wait wait, so if it resembles a sergal, then why do he have Sergal -> mammal?
What if we snakeify a sergal but it resembles enough of a Sergal, it’d stop being a mammal at that point.

Though catgirl does not imply cat.

Mammal can then be removed.

Catgirl is not the same thing.

Wait how are they a character tag? That makes literally no sense given that pokemon are a dime a dozen in the games, show, manga, etc. There are 1000 different pikachu, or rattata or w/e.

They are not, but treating them like one is a good idea.

If you really wanna have a tag that’s pokemon as a character, then add a character tag to them as well. But as it stands, they are a species in pretty much any incarnation. You could have ash’s pikachu and that is a character. But random pikachu is random pikachu, like random blue jay is random bluejay.

Yes, I am saying to treat them like character tags, not to make them as such.

There is no reason to debate any of this.

@LightningBolt
So then yes or no, if I tag pokemon with their irl species counterpart across the site I would have moderator action taken against me? You’re avoiding that question.

If everyone ignored it on E621, that means the population does not agree with you.

As it stands, please, tell me how I can search for every avianlike pokemon on the site without having to chain all their ‘character tags’ together? Because we dont enforce implications, even though as you said before, if it would be 95+% of the case, it should be implicated, then there is a large portion of art that will go undertagged without having the ‘bird’ added.

Perhaps the reason fights like this are happening, is that people realize that many, not all, pokemon fall into typical categorization schemes. Hell Cru, and Fleetfoot agree with me that certain pokemon deserve the bird tag. You’re the one being super stubborn on this issue that is pretty clear on its face.

Just answer these questions:
Would you tag a normal pidgey a bird? Would the general populace, if presented with a pidgey call it a bird? Would pidgey be a normal pidgey in 95% of cases?