LightningBolt 
Senior Moderator
Emo siren
animal humanoid (instead of kemonomimi or the horribly confusingly named animal ears tags)
Species Listing
Parashy 
@LightningBolt
I’m fine with us using it here. Just they refused to there and had a dumb replacement. I had to do something. :x
Still might push for it here, but there’s not nearly as much reason to.
I’m fine with us using it here. Just they refused to there and had a dumb replacement. I had to do something. :x
Still might push for it here, but there’s not nearly as much reason to.
Gyro 
Piaow Birb!
@Raptorshy
But just because something has been done for a while doesnt make it correct really.
I mean, look at your gender/gender pairings (Though I did not realize thats how we were doing it, good to know), that is a much better level of description that does not marginalize the transgender community.
That being said, transgenderism is an example that we can look at very recent history in which we did not have terms for said things, but terms were needed, and not including them was a form of denying that they existed.
By using Avian and Scalie for ‘fictional species’ but leaving nonmammilian fictional species as mammals, we are otherising them, saying that sergals are ‘real’ mammals but say argonians are not ‘real’ reptiles. I’m fine with merging them in, or creating the supertags that @DoesNotExist suggested and just leaving them under the supertags, but it certainly feels weird to have Sergals and Zorgoias as ‘mammals’ but argonians, kobolds, and scaled dragons as not reptiles.
All I’m asking for is consistency here, instead of raising one group on a pedestal above others.
Its really a consistent problem within the furry community. Avians are often left out, or just represented by just one creature. We get ‘that’s a fox, or a dog, or a cat’ and yet when you look at birds, most of the time its just ‘that’s a bird’ :V
Like I fully get that it might be reasonable to separate out based on real animals from completely original species for the sake of classification, but it is speciesism to only apply that to one class of original species.
But just because something has been done for a while doesnt make it correct really.
I mean, look at your gender/gender pairings (Though I did not realize thats how we were doing it, good to know), that is a much better level of description that does not marginalize the transgender community.
That being said, transgenderism is an example that we can look at very recent history in which we did not have terms for said things, but terms were needed, and not including them was a form of denying that they existed.
By using Avian and Scalie for ‘fictional species’ but leaving nonmammilian fictional species as mammals, we are otherising them, saying that sergals are ‘real’ mammals but say argonians are not ‘real’ reptiles. I’m fine with merging them in, or creating the supertags that @DoesNotExist suggested and just leaving them under the supertags, but it certainly feels weird to have Sergals and Zorgoias as ‘mammals’ but argonians, kobolds, and scaled dragons as not reptiles.
All I’m asking for is consistency here, instead of raising one group on a pedestal above others.
Its really a consistent problem within the furry community. Avians are often left out, or just represented by just one creature. We get ‘that’s a fox, or a dog, or a cat’ and yet when you look at birds, most of the time its just ‘that’s a bird’ :V
Like I fully get that it might be reasonable to separate out based on real animals from completely original species for the sake of classification, but it is speciesism to only apply that to one class of original species.
Anonymous #A8D4
Disregard, accidentally hit anon
Parashy
@Gyro
I’m fine with tagging fictional species as reptiles.
Also it’s worth mentioning that although amphibians and old style dinosaurs aren’t reptiles they fall easily into scalie.
I think bird gets the brunt of the word treatment because avian literally means bird… However most people aren’t looking for parakeets, they’re looking for gryphons and such. So people just kinda shove birds into birds just to have a way to clarify that they aren’t talking about them handless jerks that wake them up too early.
I’m fine with tagging fictional species as reptiles.
Also it’s worth mentioning that although amphibians and old style dinosaurs aren’t reptiles they fall easily into scalie.
I think bird gets the brunt of the word treatment because avian literally means bird… However most people aren’t looking for parakeets, they’re looking for gryphons and such. So people just kinda shove birds into birds just to have a way to clarify that they aren’t talking about them handless jerks that wake them up too early.
Gyro
Piaow Birb!
@Raptorshy
Use of amphibian as scalie feels odd?
Anyways if we’re defining by external body coverings, we could just go with,
Use of amphibian as scalie feels odd?
Anyways if we’re defining by external body coverings, we could just go with,
furred, feathered, scaled, and hmm… skinned has a different connotation xP. And then alias the respective groups to that. Parashy
Iunno. It’s something I’ve never seen as an issue before. With the other cases I mentioned there were already massive issues between taking offense and general confusion with how the tags work. I’m this case it feels like we’re arguing semantics and I’d rather not get into that.
Basically I’d rather not invent terminology for something that wasn’t a problem in the first place, terminology that’ll only add to the confusion.
Does that make sense?
Basically I’d rather not invent terminology for something that wasn’t a problem in the first place, terminology that’ll only add to the confusion.
Does that make sense?
Gyro
Piaow Birb!
peacock gryphon -> peacock & gryphon & avian
zebra finch gryphon -> finch & gryphon & avian & zebra finch
zebra finch -> finch & bird & avian
finch -> bird & avian
zebra finch gryphon -> finch & gryphon & avian & zebra finch
zebra finch -> finch & bird & avian
finch -> bird & avian
Gyro
Piaow Birb!
@LightningBolt
Why not? It’s like canine or feline. Pokemon relate to their base evolution
Why not? It’s like canine or feline. Pokemon relate to their base evolution
Gyro
Piaow Birb!
bayleaf & minccino & luxio ponyta & pachirisu & pichu & aerodactyl & tynamo & fletchinder & sheildon & omanyte & archeops & floatsel & kirlia & Cyndiquil & fletchinder & dewott & furret & fearow & raboot & ho-oh & corviknight & requaza & rapidash & ponyta & flaafy & obstagoon & furret & noibat & primarina -> pokémon
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