Species Listing

@CruFox  
Thankye!

mewtwo A genetically altered clone of the Pokémon mew

@DoesNotExist  
Done

argonian  
A reptilian species from Black Marsh, on the continent of Tamriel, from The Elder Scrolls franchise.
 
Should imply the elder scrolls, scalie, and reptile

@DoesNotExist  
Done
 
EDIT: Actually, I removed the “reptile” tag implication as it should be only for real life reptiles otherwise it would be just the same as “scalie”.

@CruFox  
Ah, fair enough.

From Splatoon:  
inkling  
octoling, a sub-species of octarian.  
(Don’t know much about the franchise myself.)

@Hoffun Way  
done

spanish imperial eagle which should imply bird avian eagle

Or…this was done between me uploading Serilde and posting here. Good show :)

@CruFox  
Reptile should imply scalie though right?

For that matter, should mammal apply to non irl mammals? And in that case do we need a furry tag or something?

Hmm at what point does it diverge enough to not be a reptile. Do lamias count? I suppose likely because they’re a hybrid of reptiles.
 
What about fictional snakes? Quetlcoualt? What about dinosaurs, which are really seperate from reptiles?

@Gyro  

 
Scalie and reptiles are two common terms, I don’t know any good term for fictional animals covered in fur (and using “furry” is a terrible idea)
 
As for reptiles, technically dinosaurs and birds are also reptiles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptile#Phylogeny)  

 
But I think for tagging purposes it would be easier to use it for real species that are not birds and hybrids created based on such real species.

Furry was a joke, but I feel like we should have some tag.

@CruFox  
OK but what about like Ekans or salazzle.
 
Are those snake without reptile and lizard without reptile respectively?

@Gyro  
No pokemon species will imply animal species.
 
They are free to be added with tags but I don’t want any to imply stuff as not all pokemon species are clear-cut and I might hang myself if I see Entei/Suicune/Raikou implying ‘canine’.

@LightningBolt  
Not imply, no, just more a ‘does this fall under the category.’

@Gyro  
If it looks like a real life animal enough then yeah I guess, I won’t stop you from tagging Ekans with snake.

@CruFox  

 
Going off of this for a moment… ‘argonian’ doesn’t imply ‘reptile’ because fictional species and all that, fair enough, but from the same franchise, I imagine ‘khajiit’ is going to imply ‘feline’. Will it end up implying or requiring ‘mammal’ as well?
 
I know ‘sergal’ currently implies mammal, despite being a fictional species. For the sake of consistency, I feel like there either ought to be a separate term for fictional mammals or fictional reptiles should get ‘reptile’. Just my thoughts on the matter, though!

@DoesNotExist  
On e621 fictional species that look like mammals imply mammal but fictional species that look like reptiles imply only scalie.
 

 
If you can tell the biological placement of a species such as feline, canine, snake then it could imply that one.

I have to say I think the scalie/reptile distinction is useful in the same way the avian/bird distinction is useful. Id more argue that mamilianeque fictional species deserve a super tag with mammals
 
*Grumbles about how furry isnt a valid tag, since its the overarching name of the group, sidelining featheries and scalies.*
 
Anyways if there’s no distinction between sergals and mammals, then scaled dragons and reptiles ought to fall in the same group. Otherwise it just feels like a sort of speciesism. Only fictional furred mamillianesque creatures are good enough to be grouped in with their real counterparts.

So I have a thought here, about the nature of ‘scalie’ and ‘furry’ and such with relation to ‘reptile’ and ‘mammal’. Being that furry refers to the fandom as a whole, I’d argue that scalie could refer to fans of scaled creatures rather than the creatures themselves. Is there any chance of instead of having ‘scalie’ as a tag, there could be ‘reptilian’ and ‘mammalian’ super-tags, under which existing species are tagged ‘reptile’ and ‘mammal’? It would be similar to how ‘avian’ functions as the super-tag under which ‘bird’ exists. It could also work for fictional fish, with ‘piscine’, and fictional insects with ‘insectoid’.
 
 
@CruFox  
True, but I don’t think the site is basing all its tagging policy on e621, right? There are plenty of good ideas that can be ported over, but some bad ones that shouldn’t be, too.

@DoesNotExist  

I enjoy art with reptile-like characters but I wouldn’t call myself a scalie. I always felt like it fits only a person with a scalie fursona as it describes them rather than what they like.
 

 
Maybe, as that would be more consistent with the name “avian” that comes from Latin name for birds (Aves). But then I think scalie should be just aliased into it.

@DoesNotExist  
I don’t want to invent new terminology for it, and I certainly don’t want to add complexity where it isn’t needed. It’s not going to be strictly enforced anyways, furries are fluid and they’re not always accurate with species anyways.
 
Scalie is a furry term, I’m fine with it being an over aching term for reptiles, western dragons, classically drawn dinosaurs, etc. And tagged pretty much however people see fit.
 
Avian is also common in furries because people like to add bird features to things. It can be an overarching tag.
 
I’d avoid implying fictional species to mammal but I don’t care if its tagged with it. Same with most things. This doesn’t need an over arching term because furries already use mammals. No need to reinvent the wheel.
 
@DoesNotExist  

 
No, I’m specifically avoiding that. My goal is somewhere between derpibooru and e6…about 3 years ago, with less strictness on how tags are defined and less reliance on thousands of man-hours to maintain it.
 
There are some specific things though I’m definitely taking from e6, mostly because I worked out those problems when I was at e6 and ended up with a solution that worked really well and is mostly intuitive as to its purpose. Gender/gender pairings (instead of straight/gay), standardized animal genitals (instead of trying to explain what anatomically correct means), animal humanoid (instead of kemonomimi or the horribly confusingly named animal ears tags) are just a few examples I designed and implemented. All huge problem areas that now require less manpower to maintain than what they replaced.
 
I kind of went off on a rant and I’m way past needing to sleep, but basically I want to keep it casual and relaxed, we’re not biology majors or tautologists, we’re just here to look for some good art. :)