General Tag Discussion

@CruFox  
Think I got these now.

@LightningBolt  
In the hemipenis detailed description I added an unnecessary word, it should be:
 

 
without the “but” between “penises” and “that”.  
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Also you didn’t alias face down ass up to face down butt up but the other way around, but all the other tags use “butt” instead of “ass” and as this tag applies to many safe images so I don’t think “ass” is a better world than “butt” ;)

@CruFox  
I aliased the other way as it was the bigger tag, the one derpi uses, and more common phrase. It can always be reversed, but I see no reason to personally.
 
Also fixed the dick one.

Could tags begging with maker: be made into blue ones like artist: and photographer:? This would be for fursuit makers.
 
EDIT: Also I have one description:
 
draw over - when art is drawn over an irl photo

@CruFox  
Why can’t they just be artist? They’re still artists, as are plushie makers and other crafters. Art is art.

@LightningBolt  
I thought about making this separate seeing how otherwise there would be always two artist tags on draw over pictures with fursuits.

@CruFox  
I don’t see it as nessesary as I would assume a majority of fursuit stuff would not be that, and also thst it wouldn’t matter.
 
But maybe others agree and I’m crazy idk.

Here is list of tags that I think should have a descriptions but I’m nut sure what this description should be or even what some of the tags here are for, so I can’t write them myself:
 
winking vs vulvar winking vs one eye closed - differences between those  
partial nudity - is this just common tag for bottomless and toples? And what about wardrobe malfunction?  
shipping - currently no description, should this be the same as on Derpi?  
speech bubble vs dialogue vs talking  
eeveelution - this needs a description to clarify what this is  
bra - does parts of bikini covering breasts count as this?  
And whats the difference between lingerie, panties and underwear? All should have a description.  
watermark - what’s a difference between this and a signature? If the watermark is just the artist name but written in semi-transparent capital letters is it signature and watermark at the same time?
 
grin vs smiling vs happy - differences?
 
fluffy - what is this exactly, it’s implied only by fluffy tail
 
intersex - this is an important tag so it needs a description
 
Why there is a tag called love heart but also another one called heart?
 
teats vs nipples vs breasts vs udders - descriptions needed for all
 
There is also tack, and from the implications (bridle, harness, lead) I could guess that it is meant to be this:
 

 

 
but harness on a parachutist or somebody who climbs mountains is not really connected to riding horses, so tack should not be implied by harness.
 
By the way on e621 there is a tag called bondage gear but it’s not implied by anything. You can use all the things used for bondage in a “normal” way after all.
 
EDIT: Why does hotdogging implies intercrural sex?
 
Hotdogging description from Derpibooru is:  

(By the way, why this description even mentions gender? It should be “When a penis is rubbed between another character’s butt cheeks without penetrating the anus.” because it can be a herm, doesn’t have to be a male.)
 
intercrural sex definition from Wikipedia is:
 

 
Are butt cheeks and thighs the same thing? I don’t think so, so there should be no such implication.

(just interjecting for things I’m invested in)  

 
Watermarks are over the image to spoil its printing/copying, signatures are in a corner or follow the contour / gaps of an image.  
 
vs  

 
 

 
 
Grin, but not happy.
 
 
Smile, not happy or grin.
 
 
Happy, not grin.
 
 

 
Likely a holdback from derpi when the physical heart organ was “heart” while the ♥ was “love heart”. Don’t care what the distinction is as long as it exists.

@Teaspoon  
So this is watermark but not signature?  
^{explicit below}  

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EDIT:  
As for the grin/smiling/happy it would be great to put that into words and place into tag descriptions ;)

@CruFox  
I wouldn’t think watermark and signature are necessarily exclusive; I just want to avoid them being lumped together as the same thing as people would filter “watermark” and miss out on images with subtle/unobtrusive signatures (which happened on derpi early on).

It’s been about a week since it was last mentioned, but is there any progress on the intersex tag situation? As a tl;dr suggestion I think we should adopt e621’s usage of the terms “andromorph” and “gynomorph” as the basic intersex terminology.
 
A more complete explanation is as follows:  
I’ve been on a number of different sites that have handled this to varying degrees of success, and I favor this one for two main reasons. One, familiarity - it’s what e621 uses atm and furries who have used that board will be comfortable working with them. Two, more importantly, they’re “lore-agnostic,” in that it makes no assumptions about what gender a character identifies as (unlike penis on female etc) or whether this is natural or surgical (as mtf transgender does).
 
Additionally, I think the tags penis on female and vagina on male are a bit ambiguous as to their meaning out of context - I have already seen one uploader interpret it rather literally as an orientation tag, and that’s a headache I expect we’ll see more of if the tag is kept, because although they’re listed as gender tags in the quick tag box, that distinction isn’t there on the Tag Guidelines page. Andromorph/gynomorph, by comparison, might be unfamiliar terms, but they aren’t ambiguous. And, as I’ve already mentioned, furries who’ve browsed e621 would already be familiar so that is less of a concern.
 
Finally, it would make it possible for the transgender tags to imply them as well, which I think they should, as there are effectively two ways to tag an intersex character atm and that could cause problems for people trying to filter that.

@Wingbeat  
They also need ‘solo X’ tags for them as well as any traces of those were nuked from orbit for some reason.

Some tag descriptions:
 
intercrural sex - when a penis of one character is placed between thighs of other character and rubbed against them to create friction.  
pillow humping - when a character is rubbing their genitalia against a pillow.  
scissors position - when partners intercross their spread legs together.  
detailed: Might be used during tribadism, frotting, penetration or usage of double-headed dildo
 
 
EDIT: I already did some of those above, so I’m moving them below this line:  
oral - when mouth or tongue is used for sexual stimulation or masturbation.  
hotdogging - when a character is rubbing their penis between other character’s butt cheeks.  
tribadism - when two or more characters are rubbing their vulvas together.  
frotting - when two or more characters are rubbing their penises together.  
cunnilingus - oral sex performed on vulva or vagina.
 
arabian goggles - balls placed over eyes.  
penis on face - when a penis is in contact with character’s face.  
detailed: Don’t use when the only part of face that is in contact with a penis is mouth.
 
balls on face - when a penis is in contact with character’s face.  
detailed: Don’t use when the only part of face that is in contact with balls is mouth.
 
180 penis - when a penis is positioned parallel to the character’s legs with its tip pointing towards the character’s feet, at 180° angle to what it would usually be.  
detailed: often depicted as pressed against a surface when a character is lying on their stomach on that surface.

What do I tag in situations like >>1868 (explicit) where I do not know the species?

@Anonymous #C287  
Based on how it looks, a basic species tag like mammal works.

I want to upload a picture and it has been drawn in the setting of art therapy, so I wondered if I should create the tag “art therapy” or “art therapy result”. Do you think that would be useful?

I don’t know if it should be a new thread, if so then let me know, please.
 
I noticed all tags with “tuft” and “fluff” are inconsistent and it would be easy to conform to something before the site exits beta.
 
tuft  
Either alias tufted x to x tuft, or the other way around, but consistently for any body part.  
tufted x example: tufted ears  
x tuft examples: ear tuft, head tuft, neck tuft, ||ball tuft ||  
I personally prefer x tuft, it is shorter and “tufted ears”, the only representant of tufted x, has only a count of 7.
 
fluff  
Same in green but with fluff, either alias fluffy x to x fluff, or the other way around, but consistently for any body part.  
fluffy x example: fluffy tail  
x fluff examples: chest fluff, ear fluff, neck fluff, cheek fluff, ||pubic fluff ||, cheek fluff, leg fluff, head fluff, and more with a count of < 10.  
I personally prefer x fluff for consistency compared to my opinion on tuft. Again, it is shorter and while “fluffy tail” is the most used tag of all, any other tag is represented as x fluff only and some of their counts are considerably high too.

It’s me again, sorry.
 
As discussed in Discord, you might consider turning nintendo switch into a yellow official content tag.
 
Also I wonder if alternate version will get a special tag flag as on Derpibooru, blue like edit.

@Moon Flower  

 
Done
 

 
If “edit” already has it then I can’t see a reason why alternate version should not, changed.

@Moon Flower  
As for this post: “tufted ears” should be aliased to “ear tuft”, but I’m not sure about “fluffy tail” becoming “tail fluff”, because of something along this:
 

 
But then one can argue that neck fluff that covers the neck entirely would work the same as fluffy tail, but then if you shave a fluffy neck then the remaining not fluffy neck would be a significant portion of the neck itself but if you shave a tail then there is not much of its volume left.
 
But that argumentation is probably too complicated to be useful, but I wanted to add this nevertheless, for the sake of consistency maybe “fluffy tail” should become “tail fluff” too.

@CruFox  
Yes, I was thinking about that too, to be honest, but decided to go the more simple and consistent way.

Could we change reorganise/realias e6 version?  
It’s shorter and doesn’t imply computer rendering software.
 
eyebrow clipping through hair → eyebrow through hair  
eye clipping through hair → eye through hair

Planetside should get a franchise tag. :)

@Gyro  
Done (actually already some time ago but I’m only confirming it now).